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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagomu View Post
    I tried watching the beginning of the show since people kept saying it was a good exploration of depression and stuff, but I got super turned off by the first few episodes with how whacky everyone around the main character was. Does that ever mellow out or is the side cast always that amped up?
    That whacky side of things is amplified a bunch of times due to SHAFT doing this show and while it's still present here and there, I'd say it's gone down.

    You do make me curious though- which chars in particular turned you off?

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    Violently annoyed with Houshin Engi's new anime. They crammed the whole first volume into chapter one, sacrificing any cool moments and agency that Taikoubou had against Dakki there, into "oh, you are just dumb", instead of the weird "oh, this awkward plan might work and save the world on volume 1!".

    The first kill, Dakki's sisters being something more than background wenches and Taikoubou being somewhat competent were traded for.. Having Nataku in chapter 2 instead of 4?

    I mean, leave the first chapter a little more space to breathe, put the first "kill" in the end, then chapter 2 dedicated to make the Zou capital be as shitty as possible, and the battle against Dakki's sister, and then chapter 3 the mindgames and planing and snake pit, and then chapter 4 the marketing plan! You can even keep the random useless flashforwards in chapter one.

    SOMEONE has to die early to show how the Soul realm thingie works! Dakki's sisters are important characters (Kibbi and... shut up it has been like 10 years, I don't remember their names!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzeru View Post
    That whacky side of things is amplified a bunch of times due to SHAFT doing this show and while it's still present here and there, I'd say it's gone down.

    You do make me curious though- which chars in particular turned you off?
    Honestly I didn't get far enough in to start really recognizing characters, and though this was a few weeks ago, the details are fuzzy to me. I think it just boils down to most of the side characters. In theory, I like the idea that this depressed dude has a lot of people invested in his well-being since it's got a refreshing positivity to it, but they're handled in such a goofy manner that it clashes tonally. Like the family, for instance, who have a sweet relationship with the main, but the children and pets are super cartoony. The pudgy rival character was also a miss to me, since he's really exaggerated (at least in the first few eps. again, all of this is based on the first few eps).

    I know a lot of people love this as a dramatic story, and I was excited to dive into it, but the beginning threw me. I guess I'm wondering if this is a problem only I've had cause I'm a grumpy old goat, or if it's a common sentiment that goes away in time.

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    The thing is that, when you feel like there is a tonal clash, that it's very deliberate. The Kawamoto household especially has very warm colors and a bubbly atmosphere with the cats talking and such because for the depressed Rei, who lives in this empty cold apartment, that is how he perceives it.


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    Well there's juxtaposition and then there's clashing. I get the former is what they're going for, but the result really undermines the tone for me. The goofy stuff comes off as material written to be genuinely goofy as opposed to complimenting the dramatic focus, so it ends up distracting and makes the product as a whole kinda toothless.

    Again, I only got a few eps in, so I'm not making any statements on the series as a whole. Plus, I don't like overly cartoony anime children and animals on the best of days (absolutely hated the main child in Barakamon, for example), so there's definitely some bias here. I just kinda got salty watching the beginning of the show and not sure if I should continue.

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    Another rant at Houshin Engi (I'm cutting out the U right now).

    Someone called Taikoubou "generic as asta", well I can't disconect myself from the full story, and how he keept manipulating enemies and allies into victory, but the chapter went like:

    Hyper Dense Info Dump -> Check out the kill list -> complete defeat vs the strongest dude in the kill list -> sad flashback -> try to defeat the other strongest person on the list without a plan -> fail and get captured and get like 20 people killed by a pit of snakes -> be saved by a random dude and the strongest dude -> decide to find allies

    The manga goes something like:
    From the info dump to the sad flashback is ch1

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    Ch2: Defeat a minion with an army while defending a town by getting the town drunk so they are easilly captured, and then killing the minion

    Ch3-4: The strongest woman on the list does evil torture of hot metal, while her sister tries to kill the protagonist, the sister gets defeated and captured to be used as hostage

    Ch5-8: The protagonist infiltrates palace as "musician" to taunt the villain with the life of her sister, he meets the general dude, and gets to observe the villain on her natural state of complete manipulation of the situation, and while she gives tons of openings for him to attack, they are all traps, eventually she tries a direct approach and THEN he gets a lucky shoot and tries to escape with the emperor, all predicted by the villain who placed a safegurad, recovers the hostage and disarms him.



    Ch9: gets captured, pit of snake, gets saved by general and strongest dude, decides to find allies.


    He tries the gambit of trying to end the empire on chapter one, sure if Dakki fell then and there, other colorful villains would have taken her place and she'd be the Pilaf, or the world would have ended because reasons. But at this point I had the knowledge of the first anime, so I knew of Dakki's role going forward, so it was like going to world 8-4 right after 1-1, not Bowser getting to your doorsteep, but him actually invading the capital, with a fucking hostage, and by the skin of his teeth surviving way more than he should be able to.
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    I don't dig animes that force the characters into a relationship with stupid powers or robots that work only with a male and a female.....
    With that said Darling in the Franxx had quite the amazing fight and animation, that alone convinced me to watch episode 2.

    Kokkuku and Hakata Tonkutsu Ramens are very thrilling. The latter reminds me of Durarara.

    Overlord is being very weird right now, boring kind of weird.

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    Pop Epic Team is the best anime of this season.

    Besides that gem, I gave a few anime a shot (on top of the sequels I already planned on watching) and the one I liked most is Kokkoku.

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    Whomever is the director of Houshin Engi should be demoted, at the very least.

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    For the first half of the chapter they showcassed the plot in two scenes, following the protagonist trying to gain an ally, and the antagonist returning home to see all that has gone wrong while he was away, how did they archive this? Cutting between these two paralell, but unrelated and unconected thematically stories, every around 2 minutes, at seemingly random intervals.

    There are other issues, like that the giant creatures were represented by closeup stills of their faces, and that Nataku killed the fish of the river without focusing on what he actually did, giving hints on his weird cloth magic weapon that does "something" to liquids, but the slaying of pacing was too clumsy.



    Way too many things make me feel like this series is pre-abridged.

    Also, last week seemed random enough, the opening scene was a battle way down the road, almost near the end of the story, and now it started with another battle down the line, the question is why? how? Why random insertion of spoilers?
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    It really is quite subtle, but there might be some sexual undertones in Darling in the Franxx

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    I am not ashamed to say that I am into Killing Bites.
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    Hybrid Reboot.

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